tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.comments2009-05-07T08:33:28.918-05:00Rights & ResponsibilitiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comBlogger113125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-12811156415249426782009-05-07T08:33:00.000-05:002009-05-07T08:33:00.000-05:00You are more than welcome to comment on any future...You are more than welcome to comment on any future blogs that I have for my courses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-52941704607260470892009-05-07T02:01:00.000-05:002009-05-07T02:01:00.000-05:00I don't think the disbursement would be impossible...I don't think the disbursement would be impossible, but I am guessing (in agreement with your post) that the disbursement will be the major problem with Pogge's plan. Still, it seems like a statistical formula figuring in standard of living and income, as well as assets, would be in the right direction of achieving this neutral aim of equal (in the sense that everybody gets portions relative to what they need, especially compared to others) disbursement...or would it?Josh Striefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18142087230855837250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-33211331686254215572009-05-06T21:43:00.000-05:002009-05-06T21:43:00.000-05:00Ernie, Don't you think your last post should be ex...Ernie, Don't you think your last post should be extremely long?Geffre, Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06966107777618159077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-88947201770524360532009-05-05T01:17:00.000-05:002009-05-05T01:17:00.000-05:00In re-reading Pogge's comment in Chapter 6, I thin...In re-reading Pogge's comment in Chapter 6, I think he was stating that those citizens are undemocratic. I don't think he would go as far as to specify the U.S. isn't a democracy. Remember that at the start of the chapter, Pogge recognizes that democracy is based on multiple aspects (at that point he was saying democracy extended beyond voting). I think that you can classify one part of a society as undemocratic without going as far as claiming that society on the whole is no longer a democracy (or, in other words, U.S. citizen irresponsibility isn't enough to demark our democratic status).Josh Striefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18142087230855837250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-77822855081419667772009-05-04T23:08:00.000-05:002009-05-04T23:08:00.000-05:00The article states "students envision helping comm...The article states "students envision helping communities address urgent issues — economics or the environment, education or social justice". I suspect that Dagger would like this idea. These students are recognizing the needs of the communities to which they belong, and others are recognizing the needs of communities outside of their own. Dagger states that Republican liberalism offers "...the ideal of a political order as a cooperative practice" (201). It seems as if these political organizers fit into Dagger's idea of autonomous individuals taking responsibilities for their communities.Indirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13494423919093572219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-2823791744048967402009-05-01T13:23:00.000-05:002009-05-01T13:23:00.000-05:00What would be your guess as to his response?What would be your guess as to his response?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-80138233317567483542009-04-30T01:16:00.000-05:002009-04-30T01:16:00.000-05:00It is interesting that you say that "there isn't a...It is interesting that you say that "there isn't a cohesive bond at the global level..." Developed states have no problem with recognizing the concept of globalization, as the sharing of ideas and cultures (although viewed by some as mainly the export of Western ideas and culture, because of the power that Western states hold in shaping the global order), but at the same time, these same developed states refuse to recognize the export of those things which negatively affect the rest of the global community, such as the effect on the poor and the inequalities, which Pogge discusses.<br /><br />As far as nationalism being a "recent development in human history" I think you may be speaking from a more narrow definition of "nationalism" than Pogge is using. Pogge refers to nationalism in broad terms. Specifically, he defines his notion of 'nationalism' as "focusing on persons who have an ordinary patriotic commitment to their own country" (124). I don't believe that nationalism, in this light, is a recent development, because although I'm not a history buff, nationalism, I think, can be traced back to ancient Greece, if not even earlier.Indirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13494423919093572219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-36619758255838929922009-04-29T15:43:00.000-05:002009-04-29T15:43:00.000-05:00It's on the list. I promise to read it before I s...It's on the list. I promise to read it before I start...Michael Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00776449806254811568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-80197637352464835512009-04-29T10:53:00.000-05:002009-04-29T10:53:00.000-05:00Two things. (1) Pogge did his graduate work with ...Two things. (1) Pogge did his graduate work with Rawls. (2) Rawls fairly explicitly says that things that Pogge attributes to himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-49471380314823202412009-04-29T10:52:00.000-05:002009-04-29T10:52:00.000-05:00I am appalled that you have made it out of college...I am appalled that you have made it out of college with a political science degree AND are going to graduate school in political science and have only read snippets of Rawls. Appalled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-84403727280683053722009-04-27T23:10:00.000-05:002009-04-27T23:10:00.000-05:00I'm not sure wat Mia is trying to accomplish with ...I'm not sure wat Mia is trying to accomplish with her fasting. Surely, it will gain some international attention. Yet, if the attention derives from the sole purpose that she is an American citizen who is starving herself for a cause, I don't know how I feel about that attention that she will be getting. If the attention distracts us from the issue which she is trying to aid in Darfur, and if the attention is more about the starvation of a star, then that beats the point. If she does manage to draw international support, although it is for the reason that she is a famous American, then I still don't know how I feel about it. Although the idea seems noble on face-value, it seems as if it wouldn't line up with Pogge's ideas about poverty. Pogge argues that the reason our 'new global economic order' is harsh on the poor is because it is "fashioned and adjusted in international negotiations in which our governments enjoy a crushing advantage in bargaining power and expertise" (26-27). If Mia's goal is really to help the poor in Darfur, she will have to consider their interests first. Although I applaud her for doing something to help the cause, I feel like the U.S.'s bargaining power could be as hurtful as it may be helpful to the poor.Indirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13494423919093572219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-52298474974967904132009-04-27T22:01:00.000-05:002009-04-27T22:01:00.000-05:00I think his conception of disrespecting rights is ...I think his conception of disrespecting rights is akin to what we have termed violating rights. In other words, there is no justifiable reason for the government not acknowledging the right; they are not taking action to allow individuals to exercise their right.Michael Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00776449806254811568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-14536408854987801902009-04-27T21:04:00.000-05:002009-04-27T21:04:00.000-05:00Regarding (1) manifesto rights are typically viewe...Regarding (1) manifesto rights are typically viewed as 'aspirational' and, thus, not a significant flaw if a state fails to protect them; (2) I think that the shift to institutional rights really changes the duties of the particular citizens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-37532213699134380882009-04-27T20:13:00.000-05:002009-04-27T20:13:00.000-05:00-"How can we be so oblivious? How can I complain?
...-"How can we be so oblivious? How can I complain?<br />It is depressing to see how little media coverage there is of this kind of suffering."<br />-"Where are the portrayals of every day lives of people. The stories told are done so in a way that makes suffering seem like a thing of the past." <br /><br />Erma, you make a valid point, there are things that happen on a day to day basis that most people don't know about or care about. Initially, I think there are a few reasons why people remain unaware of this tremendous problem. For starters, I think that most media outlets don't want to devote an article or time slot for poverty. Just think about it, if a media outlet wanted to, they could produce an entire story each day about hundreds of people suffering. The fact of the matter is, I feel, is that most people don't care about people that are not apart of their lives. It's hard enough for some people to take care of their friends and family, let alone their own community if they so choose, so putting the entire globe on the scale seems to unbalance it and make daily life depressing. Moreover, Especially here in America (or at least I presume), ethnocentrism plays a role in ordering what priorities we deem higher than others. In the end, poverty on a global scale is a problem, and a huge one at that. That being said people will care more about their concerns or at least the ones they encounter in their daily lives more than that of other people that they have never seen, read about, or heard of. Despite all this I can't help but wonder what role logistics has in aiding the needy. With modern advancements in technology could we one day be able to actually make sure everyone had their "basic" needs satisfied? Or is that just a dream?optimistic cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10933400406502082499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-11838735270336647072009-04-27T18:16:00.001-05:002009-04-27T18:16:00.001-05:00Also, how do we add pictures to blogs. They are ve...Also, how do we add pictures to blogs. They are very beneficial.Ermahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05595911743182490064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-989467236681429342009-04-27T18:16:00.000-05:002009-04-27T18:16:00.000-05:00Thanks for sharing! This is just a reminder that A...Thanks for sharing! This is just a reminder that America is all about "ME".Ermahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05595911743182490064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-53552637332778193352009-04-23T17:44:00.000-05:002009-04-23T17:44:00.000-05:00I'm pretty sure that the UN documents are speaking...I'm pretty sure that the UN documents are speaking to behavior of nations to their own citizens, not the international level that Pogge is discussing. His argument is that the US (and other countries) are, via policies, practices, etc., violating the rights of other countries. I'm pretty sure that UN documents don't address this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-52029111998015493022009-04-23T05:00:00.000-05:002009-04-23T05:00:00.000-05:00As to the past comments, I think Pogge is examinin...As to the past comments, I think Pogge is examining the idea of legacy. For example, take those involved with the creation of the Constitution. Those individuals created within that document a project with a certain set of ideals such as freedom and liberty. Pogge is saying that those people, despite the fact they are dead, have the right of flourishment, in that their project should be maintained as close to their ideals as possible. If the United States had a sudden shift to a tyrannical dictatorship, Pogge would argue social institutions were being unjust to those involved with creating the Constitution. In the end, it is all about the idea of a legacy, in that if you can embody your ideals in some project or etc. that exists past your death, social institutions must abide by those ideals. If they don't, they are violating that individual's or group's flourishment in that their contribution to society is being changed against there will.<br /><br />Hopefully the above is: A)Correct; and B)Understandable!Josh Striefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18142087230855837250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-78979958909421069352009-04-22T21:49:00.000-05:002009-04-22T21:49:00.000-05:00Wow, I thought I remembered how focused the educat...Wow, I thought I remembered how focused the education system here is on individualism, especially with regard to individual rights, but the second picture is a very blunt reminder that it is even worse than I thought! This is interesting. Thanks for sharing this Darin!Indirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13494423919093572219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-21305901579834779662009-04-22T20:11:00.000-05:002009-04-22T20:11:00.000-05:00I am equally confused by his bit about past partic...I am equally confused by his bit about past participants. When reading that I was really hoping that I would find the answer on the blog but it seems thus far we have the same issue. What was rather fascinating to me was the way in which rights are being formed to show that there is no reason why rights have to be centered on the western ideals of individualism and autonomy. This effort to repackage rights in a way that makes it accessible to those who do not hold western values is a pretty nifty idea mostly because it seems that most of what we read tends to keep rights centered in either individualism or autonomy and instead tries to show how these would be compatible with other cultures. Pogge argues that this idea of opening up rights to being established and affirmed in different ways because of no longer being bound to the ideals of a certain culture with specific economic practices.cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172091508441513791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-79535953117913402592009-04-20T22:43:00.000-05:002009-04-20T22:43:00.000-05:00The thing that bothered me about Dagger's discussi...The thing that bothered me about Dagger's discussion of diversity was his conclusion: "The real issue, in sum, is not whether republican liberalism is hostile or hospitable to cultural pluralism but at what point the centrifugal tendency of pluralism ceases to add a healthy measure of diversity to the polity and begins to pull it apart" (181). Leaving aside obvious questions (who decides when we've reached that point? Does that point change over time? etc.), I'm left agreeing with Ernie that Dagger has a "flippant" attitude toward diversity. It seems that he wants us to be diverse, but almost in a way that embraces tokenism--Dagger want diversity so we can say that we are diverse, but he wants that diversity to stop when it starts to have real effects. Am I misreading Dagger here?Michael Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00776449806254811568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-45814430370108560122009-04-16T13:41:00.000-05:002009-04-16T13:41:00.000-05:00I read him as saying that he opposed the form of d...I read him as saying that he opposed the form of direct democracy that he was describing. What of what he said did you take to be an endorsement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-10574525111885626452009-04-16T11:54:00.000-05:002009-04-16T11:54:00.000-05:00I feel like Dagger feels that if we fixed the numb...I feel like Dagger feels that if we fixed the number one problem area like having a better comumunity to advocate leaning and helping everyone out that everything else would fall into place. He was describing direct democracy but would be willing to endorse it if we could not have a better benevolent community.Aaron Ruggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16463650502007531623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-43265742385011436632009-04-16T09:22:00.000-05:002009-04-16T09:22:00.000-05:00Did you think that Dagger was endorsing the direct...Did you think that Dagger was endorsing the direct democracy he was describing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5473369650450963754.post-24270980675224075632009-04-16T08:44:00.000-05:002009-04-16T08:44:00.000-05:00I could imagine that fining system would be automa...I could imagine that fining system would be automated, similar to the IRS system of making sure we pay our taxes. This doesn't seem like a huge hurdle to overcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com